tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8192580971664762668.post1203946081163567178..comments2023-06-01T09:22:18.917+01:00Comments on Liturgiae Causa: Musings on this image...Unknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger3125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8192580971664762668.post-85427244288005434682010-06-04T21:11:58.920+01:002010-06-04T21:11:58.920+01:00I rather doubt that there was an official and form...I rather doubt that there was an official and formal codification or distinction until the sixteenth century between 'Low Mass' and a proper celebration of the Eucharistic Sacrifice.<br /><br />Lace is easily dealt with - simply cut it off, bashing it has no discernable effect.<br /><br />One of Cranmer's good points was the creation of Evensong as a 'cathedral rite' praxis for parish churches. Ironically in the 1956 consultation of the Episcopate by Pius XII's Commission for General Liturgical Reform, Daniel Mannix, Archbishop of Melbourne, actually suggested re-creating Evensong out of an amalgamation of Vespers and Evensong. This is rather astonishing as Mannix hated the United Kingdom and our Most Gracious Sovereign Lady H.M. The Queen. Mannix had to be quietly moved from Ireland to 'down under' after due representation through diplomatic channels as, I believe, the euphemism runs.<br /><br />Mattins and Lauds on the Eve of Sundays, replacing the Saturday Evening Mass, Hours before a single Parish Mass and Vespers and Compline (or Evensong where pastoral needs dictated it) would be a much healthier diet than Mass, Mass, Mass (folk), Mass and Mass in a typical modern parish.Rubricariushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05050302650867319277noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8192580971664762668.post-48114783917071953392010-06-04T15:41:49.244+01:002010-06-04T15:41:49.244+01:00Joseph, that is an interesting point vis-a-vis the...Joseph, that is an interesting point vis-a-vis the theology of martyrdom and the Passion we recall in the Sacrifice of the Mass, although perhaps it was a mistake - or even a clever ploy to show off the Sarum blue chasuble...Lord only knows.<br /><br />I like English words, and I certainly prefer Evensong to Vespers and Mattins to Matins, Foreword to Preface etc. In this I am influenced not only by Fortescue, who scalds Dale for his obstinate use of such terms as Bugia, Predella, Beretta etc, and Tolkien and C.S Lewis, both clever Classicists, who spent their respective careers studying the Northern barbarians! As a Classicist myself I am torn between my love of things Roman and my desire liturgically to isolate myself from Roman influence (that is Roman fashion such as lace ornamentation)...<br /><br />If I could compile a bibliography for Low Mass it would be a veritable tour-de-force. I am aware of no detailed study of Low Mass as a phenomenon peculiar to the Western Church, and it would certainly highlight one or two areas where liturgically the West has departed from Tradition.<br /><br />In a typical parish setting I would start with introducing Sunday Vespers (replacing an evening Mass), then gradually I would introduce Mattins and Lauds. It is not impossible, but trying to convince many aliturgical Westerners, who would have more Sunday Masses if they could get away with it, might be...Patrick Sheridanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07995907911415177074noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8192580971664762668.post-50156171304698727072010-06-04T15:20:51.169+01:002010-06-04T15:20:51.169+01:00Perhaps the image was deliberately imagined to equ...Perhaps the image was deliberately imagined to equate the martyrdom with the Passion by some theologically astute religious who was accustomed to Low Mass.<br /><br />I appreciate your sentiments about the Office. We're thinking about having a midweek service (an Anglican word....) of Evensong and Benediction. I think it can only be a good thing for the Parish to rekindle the memory of times when Sunday and Weekday evenings were not times to hear Mass and receive Communion, but rather to attend the Office of the day and perhaps Benediction. This emphasis on "the Mass the Mass the Mass" and at any time really is a mistake.<br /><br />I look forward to your scholarly findings on Low Mass. From lots of medieval images I've seen it seems like there was a half-way house sort of Mass, not unlike some celebrations in the Eastern churches when not even a deacon is available. You images of Acolytes holding both the chasuble and a taper, quite unlike our Low Mass today. Is this the origin of the Sanctus Candle?ex_fidehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11966214834164246079noreply@blogger.com