tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8192580971664762668.post1314512587334562029..comments2023-06-01T09:22:18.917+01:00Comments on Liturgiae Causa: Stupidity and tribalism...Unknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8192580971664762668.post-5398050690023595012016-04-03T02:57:40.031+01:002016-04-03T02:57:40.031+01:00I found all of this very informative. As an outsi...I found all of this very informative. As an outsider, who had some association with SSPX in Australia in the early 80's and latter went on to establish a Schola Cantorum which organised Masses in the Archdiocese of Sydney at Lewisham, Ultimately, with the reluctant approval of the Archbishop of Sydney, a collegiate style of liturgy and a community was established with a vision not of restoring the traditions of the recent past but rather that of the historical Western Patrimony. Rubricists invariably have meltdowns over thing not written in books - Have a large Quire book in the Centre of Choir, caused them no end of pain as it was not referred to in Fortescue! Anglicans had more to offer on keeping Catholic traditions in choir. The Monastic Breviary was our solution to the corrupted Breviary of Pius X, and the restoration of the 12 Lesson at the easter Vigil the Pentecost Vigil proved that such things were possible. <br /><br />The appointment of the FSSP to the Chapel saw the 1962 rubrics enforced, and the removal of the great choir book - but the monastic office remains, and the men and women separate each sunday and chant the offices of Terce (before the High Mass) and Sext afterwards.<br /><br />Restoration starting with the 1960's or 50's (living memory) is a beginning in recovering tradition but the aim must be to recover the glorious heritage of the ages of faith not the dim shadows of it from the late 1950's. <br /><br />The Social Kingship of Christ and the Papacy are essential elements to Western Catholicism - Westerners who go looking to the East for refuge will ALWAYS be outsiders, because their heritage and patrimony is Latin Rite - such a process is simply untraditional. The Sybilhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03830034497895166011noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8192580971664762668.post-25337202398179015982016-03-13T18:56:28.376+00:002016-03-13T18:56:28.376+00:00Exactly, as I have discussed before. The "soc...Exactly, as I have discussed before. The "social kingship of Christ" is a cloak for the political hegemony of the Papacy.Patrick Sheridanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07995907911415177074noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8192580971664762668.post-38000204213113727882016-03-13T18:41:01.899+00:002016-03-13T18:41:01.899+00:00Perhaps they prefer tat and superstition to tradit...<i>Perhaps they prefer tat and superstition to tradition and faith, but I'd like to know how any of them sleep at night.</i><br /><br />You are wrong. What interests them is politics, the so-called "Social Reign of Christ the King", but it wouldn't be Christ. Christ is only a euphemism. They are interested in control and whatever favours they might get from a ruling regime corresponding with their ideology. Tat and superstition - I don't think so, at least from the point of the "dealers" rather than the "addicts".Fr Anthonyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15521671841072661886noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8192580971664762668.post-37124048608550422702016-03-13T15:06:11.158+00:002016-03-13T15:06:11.158+00:00I watched the video but it did not have quite the ...I watched the video but it did not have quite the same effect on me. I was saddened to see so many people I have known, not least among them being the Founder and Chair of the Saint Lawrence Press, who have now departed this life. Among the servers for those functions there were at least three who had served, as young men, at Fr. Clement Russell's church in Sudbury.<br /><br />There must be other photographs out there - perhaps now mouldering in attics - as the $$PX celebrated its first Holy Week in Guildford in 1972 and then, from 1974 in both Guildford and Highclere. At Highclere the village hall was turned into a temporary chapel and the solemn celebrations of the Triduum took place there. Gabriel, a sacristan at Brompton who loathed the changes, equipped John Tyson with a couple of violet folded chasubles for the events. There was at least one solemn Pentecost Vigil too. The folded chasubles were still hanging up in a room at St. Michael's House back in 1990 when I was last there.Rubricariushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05050302650867319277noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8192580971664762668.post-9527094686552926822016-03-13T01:25:08.239+00:002016-03-13T01:25:08.239+00:00I just read your post of Dec 8, 2014. Truly excell...I just read your post of Dec 8, 2014. Truly excellent and so well researched and documented.<br />I have a friend who is an Antiochian Orthodox priest of the western rite. I find it interesting that in the US they are using the 1956 Roman Missal as the basis for their liturgy although with some unfortunate additions. Longinushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17349877149440766708noreply@blogger.com