tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8192580971664762668.post7297395362908741483..comments2023-06-01T09:22:18.917+01:00Comments on Liturgiae Causa: pope, pope, pope...Unknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8192580971664762668.post-64325590367397751472013-01-13T16:27:59.771+00:002013-01-13T16:27:59.771+00:00And what evidence do you put forth that Tolkien wo...And what evidence do you put forth that Tolkien would be Orthodox today, besides your ludicrous notion that Tolkien was ignorant of it into the 1970s? And I thought you weren't a "Traddie" who thinks everything went to pot only in the Sixties? If the rot set in centuries ago and the papacy has long been a fraud from the depths of hell, was Tolkien too stupid to realize this or did he really and consciously believe in the Catholic Church and what he called the "Vicar of Christ"?<br /><br />At some point you are going to have to deal with the Jekyll-and-Hyde schizophrenic dissonance to which this blog has descended. Odes to Tolkien alternated with bigoted vitriol against his faith and his identity is a bit bizarre, you must admit? <br /><br />If the Protestant British ruling class had done what you propose them do, then Tolkien's works would have gone up in flames along with Tolkien himself. Would that have been a happy result?Geraldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02204199533749851084noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8192580971664762668.post-62990416001072562432013-01-13T15:58:58.219+00:002013-01-13T15:58:58.219+00:00All very interesting, James C, but what does this ...All very interesting, James C, but what does this have to do with the letter I just published? I still maintain that Tolkien, were he alive today, would join the Orthodox Church. As with Newman, Orthodoxy was little known in his time and so for Christians of ''episcopal polity'' there was really only a choice of Anglicanism or Roman Catholicism. Tolkien was baptised into the Church of England.Patrick Sheridanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07995907911415177074noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8192580971664762668.post-86207120992530807452013-01-13T15:54:36.990+00:002013-01-13T15:54:36.990+00:00" I think there is nothing to do but to pray,..." I think there is nothing to do but to pray, for the Church, the Vicar of Christ, and for ourselves; and meanwhile to exercise the virtue of loyalty, which indeed only becomes a virtue when one is under pressure to desert it....<br /><br />"As Christians those faithful to the Vicar of Christ must put aside the resentments that as mere humans they feel – e.g. at the ‘cockiness’ of our new friends (esp. C of E). One is now often patted on the back, as a representative of a church that has seen the error of its ways, abandoned its arrogance and hauteur, and its separatism; but I have not yet met a ‘protestant’ who shows or expresses any realization of the reasons in this country for our attitude : ancient or modern : from torture and expropriation down to ‘Robinson’ and all that.<br /><br /> "Has it ever been mentioned that RCs still suffer from disabilities not even applicable to Jews? As a man whose childhood was darkened by persecution, I find this hard. But charity must cover a multitude of sins!"<br /><br />One hopes that Tolkien, an unrepentant devotee to what you call a Satanic institution, was saved by his charity from your pronouncement of everlasting damnation on him and his brethren. <br /><br />Your lack of charity---let's just come out and call it malice---will do you no credit.Geraldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02204199533749851084noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8192580971664762668.post-79873568259516892382013-01-12T19:28:56.631+00:002013-01-12T19:28:56.631+00:00But the Sedevacantists are caught in a trap of the...But the Sedevacantists are caught in a trap of their own making; their people aren't in power, so they moan and groan wishing only for a return to power, but never questioning the underlying liberalism of the papacy. Thus, they are - at best - enablers for liberals, who started changing things with the filioque and haven't stopped since. Once in power, liberals create great change, such as Pius X. Innovation, thy home is Rome!Stephenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12833345391579579562noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8192580971664762668.post-46786116216655875892013-01-12T13:36:38.832+00:002013-01-12T13:36:38.832+00:00Do look up Conciliarism, it was quite powerful for...Do look up Conciliarism, it was quite powerful for a while. Tomhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06820001463809982324noreply@blogger.com