tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8192580971664762668.post7513953302084942683..comments2023-06-01T09:22:18.917+01:00Comments on Liturgiae Causa: The Necromancer...Unknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger3125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8192580971664762668.post-75701714730114600722015-07-30T15:56:36.257+01:002015-07-30T15:56:36.257+01:00Thank you. For the question of whether Orcs came i...Thank you. For the question of whether Orcs came in their beginning from Elves or Men (or even sentient beasts), see The History of Middle-earth Volume 10 pp 408-423. Orcs hated the "big bosses," and the Ringwraiths, and seemed to prefer a tribal existence such as existed in the Misty Mountains.<br /><br />As for driving out their spirits and replacing them with corrupted ones, that is a conjecture. Elves did unnatural things in Middle-earth, even the kindred of the Gnomes. Remember Eöl the Dark Elf and Maeglin his son, the Sons of Fëanor became evil too. When the Sindar first discovered orcs in the wild they assumed them to have been Avari who had become savage and evil. Not very far from the truth. Even the Elves were not incorruptible.Patrick Sheridanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07995907911415177074noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8192580971664762668.post-41405760075851791622015-07-30T14:53:57.187+01:002015-07-30T14:53:57.187+01:00In fact, is it possible that Morgoth replaced the ...In fact, is it possible that Morgoth replaced the féar of elves with those of men he had corrupted, offering them a kind of deathlessness on earth in debased elven bodies? This might explain why orcs don't have the preternatural abilities, compared to men, that elves do. Just sayin'.grandadrepsherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06642570010771650182noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8192580971664762668.post-78917979780734235212015-07-30T14:36:29.214+01:002015-07-30T14:36:29.214+01:00Excellent analysis. I've always been troubled...Excellent analysis. I've always been troubled by how the enemy managed to develop orcs by tormenting and corrupting elves. I like the explanation of driving out their féar and substituting corrupt spirits.grandadrepsherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06642570010771650182noreply@blogger.com