tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8192580971664762668.post7743994878449541900..comments2023-06-01T09:22:18.917+01:00Comments on Liturgiae Causa: Sanctus Magnus...Unknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8192580971664762668.post-31067711861455209242010-08-25T16:37:29.186+01:002010-08-25T16:37:29.186+01:00At one time I was in possession of an all English ...At one time I was in possession of an all English Missal, probably between the wars origin. Real Anglo-Catholic, of course, with the only give-away being reference to the pope as "pastor inter pares". [Never loan that which you cherish!]<br /><br />Also I recollect the wartime and immediate post-war with BBC daily Evensong and being able to follow ot with my St. Andrew's Missal.enginemanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17505170441206437321noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8192580971664762668.post-43960854171807009192010-08-24T16:12:16.181+01:002010-08-24T16:12:16.181+01:00No, sadly I didn't, dear Patricius. You shall ...No, sadly I didn't, dear Patricius. You shall have to teach me!<br /><br />I never formally learned Latin, so in some places I am but working out the gist, as opposed to the true meaning. Being a polyglot has both advantages and disadvantages.Markhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17605146531776846589noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8192580971664762668.post-2733680793474805712010-08-24T14:43:26.583+01:002010-08-24T14:43:26.583+01:00This post reminds me of a visit to an Anglo-Cathol...This post reminds me of a visit to an Anglo-Catholic Church in Washington, DC (can't remember the name) many years ago...<br />beautiful music and ritual; I believe it was very close to the Old Roman Rite with English, Latin propers sung; a beautiful polyphonic Mass.<br />I, also, have a great devotion to Our Lady of Walsingham...being of British descent (a whole mix of the lot!)...Our Lady of Nazareth; our patroness.<br />The English saints are awesome, I agree!Fr. John Mary, ISJhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13093937327145346752noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8192580971664762668.post-58928112892877261482010-08-24T12:59:15.763+01:002010-08-24T12:59:15.763+01:00Joseph, nor a Martyr seemingly, but a not universa...Joseph, nor a Martyr seemingly, but a not universally known saint, which is well, and I often get sick of seeing churches dedicated to ''Our Lady'' of whatever. I must say again I was delighted by your statue of Our Lady of Walsingham - if I go to Walsingham again, I'll go to the Anglican shrine I think. Thanks for your clarification about the minor points that I missed - it was after all my first experience of Sunday morning Anglican liturgy.<br /><br />Mark, I'm glad you enjoyed this post (did you see the joke I left in the Latin part? It was as I sat down to pray...)Patrick Sheridanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07995907911415177074noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8192580971664762668.post-3799971245195422202010-08-24T10:20:35.421+01:002010-08-24T10:20:35.421+01:00Patricius,
I enjoyed reading this post; thank you...Patricius,<br /><br />I enjoyed reading this post; thank you. I found the Latin enjoyable, mostly because I was pleasantly surprised that I could understand it.<br /><br />Your post brings back reminiscences of my days as an Anglican. Liturgy was very much as you describe then. Would that it were the same in the run-of-the-mill Catholic Church. I also agree with your points about 'home grown' devotions.<br /><br />Anyway, thank you for a good read this morning, and do churn some more out. You have four weeks until I go to the Land of No Internet.<br /><br />God bless.Markhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17605146531776846589noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8192580971664762668.post-88966379780847330502010-08-24T08:25:33.062+01:002010-08-24T08:25:33.062+01:00Patrick,
Thanks for your post. Just to clear up a...Patrick,<br /><br />Thanks for your post. Just to clear up a few points about the Liturgy for the benefit of readers.<br /><br />1. The altar book in use, and the source of the collects, was the Anglican Missal. This is really our "Sunday book" and when we use the English Missal properly, the attendent ceremonial is observed entirely also. <br />2.The Creed is sung to a melody by Marbecke, who wrote a few easily sung English Masses which you can find at the back of the English Hymnal. <br />3. As MC, I would have put the chalice on the Altar at the start of Mass, but as thurifer, there wasn't a lot I could do!<br />4. We used the Interim Rite, which is a favourite of Anglo-Catholics of a certain type. In the past, it fulfilled the priest's obligation to use the Book of Common Prayer in public worship, whilst also allowing him to secretly pray the Roman Canon (minus the qui pridie, of course) which he says under the Sanctus and Benedictus. So where in an old rite Roman Mass there would be silence, the Anglican priest sometimes fills it with the "prayerbook canon" words of consecration which is the "interim" 1549 version (the best one, and allowed by certain bishops since 1662).<br />5. The English Missal is seen my many as a superlative translation of the Latin into a familiar and reverent english idiom. You ought to look online and skim some of the blessings etc, the language of which can be quite fruity.<br /><br />Thanks again for your visit and write-up, you are ever welcome in the Pews of S. Magnus (not an English saint, but the liturgy of his feast days is an adventure in itself)ex_fidehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11966214834164246079noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8192580971664762668.post-34781736750432957112010-08-24T07:34:17.898+01:002010-08-24T07:34:17.898+01:00'...where the walls
Of Magnus Martyr hold
Inex...'...where the walls<br />Of Magnus Martyr hold<br />Inexplicable splendour of Ionian white and gold.'<br /><br />Thanks for sharing this experience.Osmund Kilrule https://www.blogger.com/profile/07031929350172992367noreply@blogger.com