tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8192580971664762668.post4740577749577018587..comments2023-06-01T09:22:18.917+01:00Comments on Liturgiae Causa: Me, myself and I...Unknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8192580971664762668.post-86140935077457172082011-06-05T18:28:08.996+01:002011-06-05T18:28:08.996+01:00Albertus,
I presume the colour of the flower - th...Albertus,<br /><br />I presume the colour of the flower - the problems arise these days with cultivars such as Paeonia 'Bridal Cream', P. 'Sarah Bernhardt'. P. 'Yellow Crown' etc. I suspect though that in the eighteenth century most paeonies were a deep purple-red.Rubricariushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05050302650867319277noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8192580971664762668.post-46100281777542994732011-06-04T17:23:20.722+01:002011-06-04T17:23:20.722+01:00Rubricarius,
what exactly is ''paeony'...Rubricarius, <br />what exactly is ''paeony'' colour?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8192580971664762668.post-65439284642540175422011-06-03T08:53:44.464+01:002011-06-03T08:53:44.464+01:00Before the twentieth century reforms the pope woul...Before the twentieth century reforms the pope would not have worn violet on Palm Sunday anyway. The custom was that he presided at a celebration where the ministers wore violet but the pope wore a 'paeony' colour cope.Rubricariushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05050302650867319277noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8192580971664762668.post-63686956482539404142011-06-03T08:10:12.422+01:002011-06-03T08:10:12.422+01:00Frying pans and fires. Is there more anger, weird...Frying pans and fires. Is there more anger, weirdness, paranoia and cognitive dissonance where you are now, or where you were formerly? So there's the clue.<br /><br />As Evelyn Waugh asked John Betjeman, is it likely that the Apostolic Tradition in its fullness has been entrusted to, and preserved exclusively by, a handful of homosexual curates in the South East of England?Anagnostishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03706938507885553293noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8192580971664762668.post-56630539623364368302011-06-03T04:01:56.382+01:002011-06-03T04:01:56.382+01:00Where in England can you find a pre-1962 Missal ce...Where in England can you find a pre-1962 Missal celebration of the Tridentine Mass that is celebrated by priests in communion with Rome? I thought only sedevacantists celebrated earlier incarnations of the <i>Missale Romanum</i>.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8192580971664762668.post-70621131043417889332011-06-03T00:14:59.788+01:002011-06-03T00:14:59.788+01:001) @Bryan: "Patriarch of the West" ironi...1) @Bryan: "Patriarch of the West" ironically is the one historical title that the Eastern Orthodox appreciated... it is suggested that Benedict XVI elected to drop the title in deference to the Eastern Orthodox...?! As if they have less objection to "...vicar of Jesus Christ, successor of the prince of the apostles, supreme pontiff of the universal church... servant of the servants of God"?! Either way, it is historically a title of the Bishop of Rome, whether or not the present incumbent wishes to use it or not.<br />2) @lxoa: Perhaps the "Sarum Use" was but a Gallican variation - that would seem probable. It doesn't alter the fact that is was the most extant "Use" in this country until the Reformation.<br />3) @Stephen - you contradict yourself!<br />4) @Fr Michael - indeed it was, but our author has declared himself for the 1570 "universal Use" for lack of the Sarum, quote, "Well I would be of the Sarum Use but I say the 1570 Roman Office and perforce attend Mass in the Roman Rite pre-1962 (far less worthy than the venerable Use of Salisbury."<br />5) @Albertus: Patricius has only declared himself for true Catholic Tradition... which has attempted to explain.Canon Jerome Lloyd OSJVhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10764146635659770019noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8192580971664762668.post-81546252035760545142011-06-02T16:05:51.045+01:002011-06-02T16:05:51.045+01:00O bone Patricii!
Here are your rather dramatic wor...O bone Patricii!<br />Here are your rather dramatic words, which led me to believe that you had mihgt have formally left the Catholic Church: <br />''And so it all boils down to two things. Either you accept Christ, and take the consequences, or you do not, and take the consequences. Maybe one day I shall again bend the knee to Rome, but something drastic will have to happen first. There are just two possibilities - either the claims of the Pope are true, and therefore it is necessary to be subject to him; or they are a damnable falsehood inimical to the Gospel. The Book of Ecclesiasticus puts it succinctly: He has set water and fire before you: stretch forth your hand to which you will (15:17). There is no ''only to you'' about it; either I am in error for rejecting the Pope, or I have, by God's Grace, been set at liberty by rejecting him. Lord grant that I have chosen rightly..''<br />Since English is not my mother tongue (though, my birth mother was English, from Yorkshire, which makes me half-English...) I decided to ask you about this, rather than presume to have understood your words correctly.<br />In fide,<br />AlbertusAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8192580971664762668.post-82769576625485115662011-06-02T15:19:15.742+01:002011-06-02T15:19:15.742+01:00Red was the colour used in Sarum for Palm Sunday.Red was the colour used in Sarum for Palm Sunday.Fr Michael Brownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15320336535138538635noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8192580971664762668.post-6449937332612526762011-06-02T08:05:11.279+01:002011-06-02T08:05:11.279+01:00Patricius
You're becoming a victim of your ow...Patricius<br /><br />You're becoming a victim of your own rhetoric. All this bombast makes simple truth-telling very difficult; you end up as a fantasy Patricius inhabiting a fantasy universe.<br /><br />Make a rule for yourself: whenever you start writing in a parodies of encyclicalese, 16th century cod-theological invective, or, mutatis mutandis, like a Soviet commissar - strike it our and start again.<br /><br />There's no more certain route to perdition than adopting as a matter of habit a way of speaking, which becomes a way of thinking, which cuts you off inexorably from everything that actually exists.Anagnostishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03706938507885553293noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8192580971664762668.post-44072732758829717662011-06-02T05:32:47.530+01:002011-06-02T05:32:47.530+01:00Pugna fortior, fili mi!Pugna fortior, fili mi!Joehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16837517550965417454noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8192580971664762668.post-91433957279568443322011-06-02T04:40:04.535+01:002011-06-02T04:40:04.535+01:00Thou art a fool, and a protestant one at that. If ...Thou art a fool, and a protestant one at that. If you are not in communion with a living bishop, you are only in communion with yourself. At a minimum, choose a bishop near you, Anglican, Catholic or Orthodox, and submit to the faith of that bishop. That's a start. Otherwise, you are just playacting (which of course is what all Anglicans do anyway).Stephenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12833345391579579562noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8192580971664762668.post-26476446533562416492011-06-01T23:01:52.454+01:002011-06-01T23:01:52.454+01:00The "Use of Salisbury" (introduced by No...The "Use of Salisbury" (introduced by Norman conquerors who invaded England with a papal mandate) is every bit as much an alien imposition on the English Church as Pius V's Roman Missal.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8192580971664762668.post-45413855070620525802011-06-01T22:58:43.275+01:002011-06-01T22:58:43.275+01:00Patricii,
The Papal title "Patriarch of the ...Patricii,<br /><br />The Papal title "Patriarch of the West" is no longer used as it is considered obselete:<br /><br />http://www.catholic.org/international/international_story.php?id=19144<br /><br />How then can Pope Benedict be described as an "apostate Patriarch"? he no longer claims to be a Patriarch at all. Are you criticising his abandonment of the Patriarchy perhaps?<br /><br />As for the idea he is an Apostate tout court I am not at all sure what you mean there. An apostate from what and to what? <br /><br />I have looked back at your first post and just wonder how today's post advances the ideas you set out there.Bryanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15560006282627072784noreply@blogger.com