tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8192580971664762668.post4798328454049456442..comments2023-06-01T09:22:18.917+01:00Comments on Liturgiae Causa: The Greeks...Unknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8192580971664762668.post-10303372415950290452014-07-22T04:34:36.648+01:002014-07-22T04:34:36.648+01:00...which happens to be of Greek rite.
They're...<i>...which happens to be of Greek rite.</i><br /><br />They're almost all of Greek Rite. The Greeks happen to do it in medieval Greek or the local Western vernacular.Ecgberthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06354592772973677609noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8192580971664762668.post-83483106394927256752014-07-19T20:40:55.887+01:002014-07-19T20:40:55.887+01:00Go get 'em! Don't ever be discouraged, h...Go get 'em! Don't ever be discouraged, hang on, don't listen to the naysayers, talk to your priest, pray! Good for you!<br />bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14039146105983736459noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8192580971664762668.post-45757346940503473372014-07-19T05:36:08.528+01:002014-07-19T05:36:08.528+01:00all the above comments apply, Patrick! Heed them w...all the above comments apply, Patrick! Heed them well. I'm a convert from anglicanism since 1987 and have some periods of delusion, and dissolution too. But this is where I still find myself now in my 70s and where else could I possibly go? And the beauty and comfort of the services, as well as the pastoral kindness I've found, is what keeps me here.<br />Best wishes and my fervent prayers for you!<br />Rdr. James Morgan<br />Olympia, WAAuriel Ragmonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08395216240172741261noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8192580971664762668.post-7065692829156768552014-07-17T17:28:47.998+01:002014-07-17T17:28:47.998+01:00LOL. Amen John. Nobody should ever delude themselv...LOL. Amen John. Nobody should ever delude themselves that the Orthodox "have it all figured out." <br /><br />Clueless bishops, grumpy clergy, insular congregations, cradles angry because they can't smoke practically in the nave, converts embarrassed to realize not a single person so much as looked at the dish they slaved over all afternoon for the parish dinner. <br /><br />Welcome to Orthodoxy, Patricius! ;^)The Anti-Gnostichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04386593803225823789noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8192580971664762668.post-55250255341468183752014-07-17T16:54:15.118+01:002014-07-17T16:54:15.118+01:00..Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8192580971664762668.post-82481928256639337162014-07-17T12:38:37.684+01:002014-07-17T12:38:37.684+01:00Have no fear, I am not going to be received this S...Have no fear, I am not going to be received this Sunday! And I have had two (or is it three now?) years to think about this. I am simply uttering my intention and shall, in the coming weeks, make some enquiries at my local Orthodox church (which happens to be of Greek rite).Patrick Sheridanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07995907911415177074noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8192580971664762668.post-38981146098716097842014-07-17T02:56:43.024+01:002014-07-17T02:56:43.024+01:00Patriicius
Please proceed slowly with this. Disagr...Patriicius<br />Please proceed slowly with this. Disagreements with your current or former confession can be a good reason for leaving, but they are rarely a good reason for joining another church. The Orthodox Church is different from Roman Catholicism in far more than liturgy. But in one important aspect we are very similar. Both churches have lots of problems and are run by very fallible people who will at times infuriate you. <br /><br />I don't want to discourage anyone from joining the Church but I do want any potential convert to know as far as possible what they are doing, and to be sure that they are embracing Holy Orthodoxy in its entirety. At a minimum I would encourage a good retreat at a monastery as part of your preparation. And be sure you have a long talk with your spiritual father so he knows your background and is thus able to guide you in your reception into the Church. <br /><br />Above all though, don't rush. Take your time, pray and fast and be sure this is what is right for you. It is far better to remain outside the Church then enter, only to leave later.<br /><br />Prayers for you as you prepare for Holy Illumination and deal with all of the spiritual warfare that is certain to continue and become even more intense.<br /><br />Under the mercy<br />JohnJohn (Ad Orientem)https://www.blogger.com/profile/14329907942477160166noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8192580971664762668.post-1068711183020825672014-07-16T21:38:17.790+01:002014-07-16T21:38:17.790+01:00Good on you, Patricius!
I'm pleased to see al...Good on you, Patricius!<br /><br />I'm pleased to see all the percolating (prayers are not always the best, sometimes rather just the machinations of our own minds and souls) has paid off... In my case I left the RCC for the scottish brand of Anglicanism of my birth. Not that I really believe the same as I used to--thank the FSSP for that!Markhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17605146531776846589noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8192580971664762668.post-50815805359079241692014-07-16T21:25:00.520+01:002014-07-16T21:25:00.520+01:00In the five years that I've been writing blogs...In the five years that I've been writing blogs it has only latterly (that is to say, within the last six months or so) dawned on me that I know absolutely nothing about liturgy. All I know now is that the Roman Rite, much like Babylon the Great, is not healed so I shall forsake her.Patrick Sheridanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07995907911415177074noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8192580971664762668.post-35296526794186724522014-07-16T21:03:28.923+01:002014-07-16T21:03:28.923+01:00Your comments about the Roman Rite are poignant. I...Your comments about the Roman Rite are poignant. It's disheartening and in the end a waste of time trying to "correct" it. Western Orthodoxy seems to be a mess, having partially imploded not long ago. Not only the modern Roman Rite is taking word for word with only the necessary changes (Liturgy of St. Gregory), but so is the Episcopal Book of Common Prayer (Liturgy of St. Thikon). The former often complete with lace cottas and baroque altars. That seems to be the result of disaffected Catholics and Anglicans just wanting to keep doing whatever they were doing. There is on the other hand a reconstructed Gallican liturgy, the Liturgy of Saint Germanus, though it is heavily russified.<br /><br />I've frequently seen the Sarum rite and Stowe Missal being dismissed because of antiquarianism, even from Eastern Orthodox christians. The same goes for insistence on proper liturgical arts. I find that quite unfortunate, especially now that the Byzantine rite is undergoing a renewal of the liturgical arts that is decidedly antiquarian.Tomhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06820001463809982324noreply@blogger.com