tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8192580971664762668.post8455917920165392134..comments2023-06-01T09:22:18.917+01:00Comments on Liturgiae Causa: Translating the Creed...Unknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8192580971664762668.post-44445390168350987882015-04-02T16:06:45.514+01:002015-04-02T16:06:45.514+01:00I think it's slightly more than affectation. A...I think it's slightly more than affectation. And I would say "took flesh," rather than enfleshed which sounds cumbrous. I am rather busy on another project at the moment but I may post my own translation before long.Patrick Sheridanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07995907911415177074noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8192580971664762668.post-45383313805772335152015-04-02T15:59:26.789+01:002015-04-02T15:59:26.789+01:00This is mere Saxonist affectation. Why not "e...This is mere Saxonist affectation. Why not "enfleshed" for "incarnate", and so forth?Osmund Kilrule https://www.blogger.com/profile/07031929350172992367noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8192580971664762668.post-25183681890778001822015-04-01T22:45:02.692+01:002015-04-01T22:45:02.692+01:00Vlad,
I agree, I've used your analogy to exp...Vlad, <br /><br />I agree, I've used your analogy to explain the difference to various modernists and other assorted heretics.Prior Martinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15676817526437140998noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8192580971664762668.post-65706645001276006362015-04-01T20:01:48.612+01:002015-04-01T20:01:48.612+01:00I disagree with what you say about seen and unseen...I disagree with what you say about seen and unseen being equivalent to visible and invisible. If I hide under a table I might be unseen but I am certainly not invisible. Visible and invisible are definitely superior in the context of the Creed. Vlad the Impalahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14239138210398286008noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8192580971664762668.post-57411974959546474302015-04-01T17:21:22.238+01:002015-04-01T17:21:22.238+01:00Byrd's Great Service is my favourite.Byrd's Great Service is my favourite.Patrick Sheridanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07995907911415177074noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8192580971664762668.post-45422566565395630932015-04-01T17:20:34.407+01:002015-04-01T17:20:34.407+01:00Naturally, the official texts of the RC version of...Naturally, the official texts of the RC version of the Creed include the Filioque. I omitted it on purpose.Patrick Sheridanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07995907911415177074noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8192580971664762668.post-55900606556626694662015-04-01T17:19:44.502+01:002015-04-01T17:19:44.502+01:00I have seen some beautiful Tudor English rendering...I have seen some beautiful Tudor English renderings of such liturgical texts as the Gloria in Excelsis in Manuals and Primers, mostly quoted in liturgical scholars like Duffy and Crichton. The best translation of the Creed into English I have seen is Cranmer's own but I'm not that keen on it.<br /><br />I'm actually in the process of devising a Mass rite for penitential days right now. I may post it ere long.Patrick Sheridanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07995907911415177074noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8192580971664762668.post-80536717227395635562015-04-01T15:31:08.990+01:002015-04-01T15:31:08.990+01:00Why reinvent the wheel? There are plenty of musica...Why reinvent the wheel? There are plenty of musical settings for the Prayer Book version:<br /><br />I believe in one God the Father Almighty, Maker of heaven and earth, And of all things visible and invisible:<br /> And in one Lord Jesus Christ, the only-begotten Son of God, Begotten of his Father before all worlds, God of God, Light of Light, Very God of very God, Begotten, not made, Being of one substance with the Father, By whom all things were made: Who for us men, and for our salvation came down from heaven, And was incarnate by the Holy Ghost of the Virgin Mary, And was made man, And was crucified also for us under Pontius Pilate. He suffered and was buried, And the third day he rose again according to the Scriptures, And ascended into heaven, And sitteth on the right hand of the Father. And he shall come again with glory to judge both the quick and the dead: Whose kingdom shall have no end.<br /> And I believe in the Holy Ghost, The Lord, The giver of life, Who proceedeth from the Father and the Son, Who with the Father and the Son together is worshipped and glorified, Who spake by the Prophets.<br /> And I believe One Holy Catholick and Apostolick Church. I acknowledge one Baptism for the remission of sins. And I look for the Resurrection of the dead, And the Life of the world to come. Amen.Fr Anthonyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15521671841072661886noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8192580971664762668.post-27194697847649351162015-04-01T15:13:43.377+01:002015-04-01T15:13:43.377+01:00Have you deleted the "filioque" due to y...Have you deleted the "filioque" due to you're recent move toward Orthodoxy or was it deleted by the RC hierarchy? It's been forty years since I had any relationship with the RCC and am not familiar with their current usages and translations.Prior Martinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15676817526437140998noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8192580971664762668.post-42579295708137966232015-04-01T13:14:29.429+01:002015-04-01T13:14:29.429+01:00So then, have a go at it and translate the creed s...So then, have a go at it and translate the creed so we can see if it "rolls off the tongue" while maintaining theological integrity.<br /><br />Longinus Longinushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17349877149440766708noreply@blogger.com