See here. It seems rather cheap to hang one's every objection to Orthodoxy on its perceived teachings on divorce, remarriage and human sexuality and then make a cynical attack upon Orthodox fasting rules. In my experience, if ever Roman Catholics shew any misgiving about Orthodoxy it invariably takes the form of moral objection to the Church in Soviet Russia (and what does that have to do with doctrine?) or the perceived inconsistencies in Orthodox theology or, if they're really desperate, "they're schismatics and they despise the Pope!"
Well, look at Rome. I was eager to be gone and now I cannot wait to be received into Orthodoxy.
Currently, I am enjoying Sundays alone too much, but Orthodoxy has been gaining in my esteem since I got online and started reading blogs. With that blog post, this man has proven himself to be an idiot, or at least seriously imprudent, because there is enough information online that even an ardent RC has to conclude we must become more like them. He appears to be advertising his failure to pass the intelligence test.
ReplyDeleteIf Rome is the "true church" she would not have so cheaply discarded, over a period of several centuries, her own tradition. The Vatican II constitution Dei Verbum claims the mantle of three founts of divine revelation: Scripture, Tradition and Magisterium. It seems to me that the only one of those three that is truly left is magisterium, which is manifestly the production team in Rome which produces papal decrees and then supports them by claims of infallibility. That is not Tradition, it is the opposite of Tradition. And as for Scripture, so much of the modern Papal system can be disproved by recourse thereto that I'm genuinely surprised a papal theologian can say the word with a straight face.
DeleteEver wonder why Trent, Vatican I and Vatican II are so important? It's because, like their system of canon law, they are all the most recent convocation of bishops, and therefore carry the more authority than Tradition. I say, nothing can be both new and true.
I would beg to differ: I do not think that The Young Fogey™ is quite as stupid as his recent comments on his weblog would indicate. He, like Diane Kamer, is just a reflexive Cheerleader for the Church, and as long as he is able to get to his traddie mass, it's just a matter of "I'm all right, Jack", to him.
ReplyDeleteWhat I think is more insupportable is that he continues to use the moniker of The Young Fogey™. I'm afraid that, like Kid Rock after age 40, that he is rather too long in the tooth for that now.
bernard, I didn't mean to say that Fogey is stupid; rather that his post is symptomatic of a common tendency among Roman Catholics in their condescension to the Orthodox. It usually rests on some, to me, trivial difference in doctrine rather than something more substantial, like liturgy. As for Diane, she's a merely a woman.
DeleteIt is best to simply not read him. The guy has some hang ups that, over the years, have gotten progressively worse. Concerning religious matters, he could stand to not think about them so much.
DeleteYes. I see it in the filoque. We are encouraged to focus on it as a theological argument- of course they must hide Palamas and others- and have us walk down a logic tree manufactured from years of trying to hammer natural law and Aristotle into us. Meanwhile, right there in the council, are the rules that a pope (and bishops) agreed to. If you add stuff to the creed, you are out- defrocked, etc...
ReplyDeleteInstead of making some attempt to obey the rules, they invented an anarcho-tyranny.
He's only bashing his former church. It's a common---if spiritually harmful---practice of converts. I daresay the author of this blog does more of his own share of it, with pretty bitter and angry invective.
ReplyDeleteLeave it for your own good. Has your new Orthodox priest read this blog of yours?
It's quite possible that a few Orthodox priests have stumbled across this blog. There used to be at least one, when it was more popular, but I haven't seen comments from him for about three years.
DeleteHaving said that, I haven't yet formally presented myself to an Orthodox priest to be received. I am merely attending Orthodox liturgies.